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Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:22:00 -
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BillyBanter wrote:The problem here is it's way too easy, and too cheap, to get hugely profitable kills.
It's risk vs reward, the risk isn't much, it's known to and accepted by the ganker long before weapon is fired. A simple solution would be to increase freighter HP by 300%. 100k EHP isn't very much for what is supposed to be EVE's largest freight vessel.
Crap, you just used a lot of words to produce it.
Risk - reward is fine. They calculate the risk (=loosing all their ships and sec) and search for targets that are justifying that risk and give the wanted reward (=Freighters with stupid pilots and way too much isk onboard). It is a freight Vessel...more Tank plates would need a lot of space and cause a lot of additional weight which means you could not transport a lot of stuff... It would have to have 300% slower and have 300% more align time....then we can think about it... |

Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.19 07:33:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=14665735
Another case for the fist of Darwin. Nice drop. |

Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.19 09:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:William Walker wrote:I don't see why the freighters just don't log off. Unless they are AFK. Many of them did 
Many of the ones you reliefed of their cargo or the ones that got away?
Btw If you would drop a ton of cans in front of all gates leading to Uedama that say "DONT JUMP IN YOUR FREIGHTER YOU ARE GOING TO GET GANKED" they still would jump in happily. |

Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.25 06:35:00 -
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ahahaha moved to C&P now...die thread, die a troll dead |

Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.25 08:05:00 -
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Beachura wrote:Erm.. I have never been killed in my charon, I don't understand why individual pilots cannot follow some simple rules that kept me alive carrying expensive cargo:
- Never autopilot (yes it's boring, but I'd rather be bored than dead) warping gate to gate at your computer very much decreases your chances of being ganked. (personally I used to autopilot with an empty cargo, due to the fact it's not extremely profitable to destroy an empty freighter but some individuals don't even do that)
- If you suspect you have been scanned, dock or change route to avoid any 0.5 and 0.6 systems
- There are intelligence channels for certain areas of high security, especially in uedama and niarja, join them
I'm sure many others in this thread will have additions to this list including scouts, but I find just those three rules keeps most pilots alive for months at a time. I have never lost a freighter.
Agreed. The map tool is great to plan routes free of risks...I honestly think that with a bit of planing one could even find a calm route through 0.0 and autopilot an Orca for several jumps. |

Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.26 07:16:00 -
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Karah Serrigan wrote:The solution to this is pretty simple. We need cloaky freighters. But dont make them suck and be like jfs which only have 1/3 the cargo of a normal freighter. Let them have at least 2/3 or so. First off I like the Idea :-D I see a glorious future for cloaky AFK freighters...Oh wait...you would have to be there to press cloak everytime you align, but yeah it is highly improbable that someone decloaks you during that very short time.
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Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.09.26 08:09:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:
It's funny that most of the intelligent comments I have read on here are from the goons themselves.
Maybe we should just ban pvp in all of high sec, so that we could fix the issue for one group of players and mess everyone else's game up. I mean we did it with mining ships why not.
Seriously though, haulers need to learn better strategies instead of calling for some new patch.
However, I am prepared to offer protection for any freighters that require it for a small fee. You will put your freighter alts (mains for some of you....) into my corp. We will run freighters as groups with armed escorts. I have already setup 20 new accounts to multibox with and I have some friends ready to move their toons in as well.
1. Pay a one-time application fee of only 250m. Please send to corp or my ceo and mark "freighter service" so I do not accidentally double your isk on my character.
2. Monthly fee will be 100m.
3. We will coordinate runs as small groups of freighters with an armed escrort. If gankers show up, we will web your ship to allow a quick warp to a corp safespot, rep your freighter as needed with our guardians, and finish off the gankers with the main escort fleet. We will then continue on. We will have multiple safes in each system so you can quickly warp no matter how you get bumped.
***BONUS If your ship is lost in fleets....
1. We will buy you a new identical ship at no cost to you.
2. We wil reimburse you for any lost collateral up to 3 billion per haul. We must limit this amount to guard against fraud.
3. NO limit on reimbursements. You pay us to take on the risk for you. You will earn slightly less a month, but you won't have to worry anymore about losing a 1.5+b ship and its contents/collateral.
Wait, there's more!
If you cannot afford or otherwise do not wish to partake in monthly option, you may rent our services for 25m a day. You will still have to join our corp for that day and fly in our fleets, but you can use us off and on.
***SPECIAL BONUS
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Options:
1. Bronze: Send 450m isk, which covers your application fee and 3 months of coverage. This saves you 100m isk over 3 months. (better deal)
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Feel free to reach out to me with any questions you may have. I think I have covered all the bases here.
Please note that I am already getting lots of questions since I floated this idea elsewhere recently.
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I can vouche for this service. |

Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:07:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:Karah Serrigan wrote:The solution to this is pretty simple. We need cloaky freighters. But dont make them suck and be like jfs which only have 1/3 the cargo of a normal freighter. Let them have at least 2/3 or so. First off I like the Idea :-D I see a glorious future for cloaky AFK freighters...Oh wait...you would have to be there to press cloak everytime you align, but yeah it is highly improbable that someone decloaks you during that very short time. Very short time: 40 seconds. 
That is exactly what i meant...and Karah Serrigan was also rather sarcastic than serious (at least I hope so) |

Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.11.18 09:46:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Horatioh Kane wrote: I'm not taking sides, but you explicitly mentioned the Hulk here.
Whoopes.  I meant to say Freighter. I blame months of having this exact conversation with Miners. Quote:EDIT: Riot Girl wrote: If you lose a ship because it's impractical to ensure it's protected, you deserve that loss.
Also we could really just empty quote this into the ground. I would make a slight alteration. Edited Riot Girl wrote:If you lose a ship because you decide that it's impractical to ensure it's protected, you deserve that loss.
No offense taken...you really could just copy paste and insert the new hull when it comes to discussions like this one....
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.11.18 09:51:00 -
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You are a pitty little man. 14*130 Million is the gamble. JF-¦s are harder to kill and 1,8 billion ISK at stake for the chance of ZERO Isk drop is a high risk. SO everything working as intended (do not give me that "butbut the jf is worth more...frozen water can sink big ships)
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.11.18 12:52:00 -
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Nar Zandev wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:You are a pitty little man. 14*130 Million is the gamble. JF-¦s are harder to kill and 1,8 billion ISK at stake for the chance of ZERO Isk drop is a high risk. SO everything working as intended (do not give me that "butbut the jf is worth more...frozen water can sink big ships) So how much chance for income is there when you gank only for lulz? Oh yea, right, cause when you are able to kill titan with a destroyer is all right :D (there is a meme for frig against titan somewhere :D or dev losses titan) http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17641147http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=17644123
you proof once more that we can be happy that freighters are actually ganked by people who understand the mechanics and not by your kind.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.11.19 06:57:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Explain how it is a problem.
At present it's just the lazy and weak that are getting killed for being just that. Anyone with a brain can circumvent the ganking activity. I was saying leave the safety (cant do anything that will get you shot or be able to shoot a pc) permanently on everywhere. Thus nobody needs to worry about being shot.
yeah, a really good advice...all High sec dwellers should folow it, make it so.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.11.20 09:54:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:Reasoned people recognize that it is in their interest to ensure the safe and expiated transfer of goods to market from which they make money. The irrational man believes that he can do better by destroying the goods such that no one has them.
Then get an Alt/Corpmate/random guy as a scout or let him sit in a noobship and prepare the gate where you have to fear a gank.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
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Posted - 2012.11.21 06:08:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:I will support freighter bumping and ganking if you give me some of the loot.
See, thats a valid and legal buissnes proposal... request denied.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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